{"id":3653,"date":"2016-09-01T14:21:04","date_gmt":"2016-09-01T21:21:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/blog\/archives\/"},"modified":"2016-09-01T20:16:49","modified_gmt":"2016-09-02T03:16:49","slug":"social-trinity-attractive","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/blog\/archives\/social-trinity-attractive","title":{"rendered":"Why the Social Trinity is Attractive"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Many smart Christians affirm the idea of the social Trinity. And yet Keith Ward says it&#8217;s a &#8220;bad idea.\u201d It makes sense to evaluate the reasons some Christians like the social Trinity idea on the way to proposing an alternative.<\/p>\n<p>In my previous post, I noted that Ward believes Christians should not say God is comprised of three persons, each with distinct centers of consciousness, distinct freedoms, distinct responsibilities, distinct wills, or distinct relations between one another. Of course, any specific social Trinity theologian may not use all of these phrases. But the social Trinity seems to require belief in a least one.<\/p>\n<p>The problem with saying that God is comprised of three persons with any of these distinctions is that this formulation of the Trinity is more tritheistic than monotheistic. Christians should believe God is one not three.<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-3654 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/RubilevTrinity-248x300.jpg\" alt=\"RubilevTrinity\" width=\"248\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/RubilevTrinity-248x300.jpg 248w, https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/09\/RubilevTrinity.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 248px) 100vw, 248px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>I also noted in my previous review post that Ward believes Christians should conceive of the Trinity as one God instantiated in three forms. In his book, he uses a variety of descriptions for these three forms or aspects. In one segment, he talks about God as Trinity that includes other-creation, relationship, and inclusion.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Why So Many Find the Social Trinity Appealing<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>If Ward is right that the social view of the Trinity is problematic, why have so many Christians \u2013 including leading 20<sup>th<\/sup> century theologians like J\u00fcrgen Moltmann, Wolfhart Pannenberg, and John Zizioulas \u2013 been attracted to it? The answers vary, and Ward addresses them directly. I won&#8217;t spend the time and space required to review all of Ward&#8217;s points. Below are points I think especially important.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Scripture<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Some adopt the concept of the social Trinity, because they assume scripture supports it. And some passages seem to suggest something like God as three distinct persons.<\/p>\n<p>The Bible is at best ambiguous, however, in its overall support for the idea of the social Trinity. Unfortunately, says Ward, \u201cthe social view arises from a dubious projection of the economic trinity onto the immanent trinity\u201d (221). Ward believes Scripture can more easily be marshaled to support his alternative view.<\/p>\n<p>The synoptic gospels, for instance, do not provide a doctrine of the social Trinity. Jesus is not recorded by any of the synoptic gospel writers as claiming to be coeternal with God or a coequal in the Trinity. Such an idea, Ward rightly says, comes from Christian theologians later in history who attempted to understand Jesus\u2019 relation to God.<\/p>\n<p>John\u2019s Gospel is most helpful for crafting a viable doctrine of the Trinity. John speaks of Jesus as the Word become flesh. The Word \u201cis an eternal possibility made actual,\u201d says Ward, \u201cfirst as an eternal Ideal in the mind of God, and then (incarnated) in a finite subject\u201d (57). The Word is not one divine person among other divine persons.<\/p>\n<p>The New Testament letters can be interpreted as either supporting or undermining the concept of the social Trinity. Biblical writers typically speak of the Spirit as an impersonal force or power, however, not a person. \u201cThe spirit is a creative energy of God,\u201d says Ward, \u201cwhich empowers and fills the inner life of Jesus\u201d (81). Few if any biblical passages speak of the Holy Spirit as having a will.<\/p>\n<p>Ward argues that Christ expresses divine wisdom. The man Jesus expresses Christ by revealing the nature of God as loving and compassionate. The Spirit is active in Jesus, but the Spirit also works with creatures who can express various forms of the cosmic Christ. Christ can be expressed in, as Ward puts it, \u201ca vast throng of created species and forms of life\u201d (71).<\/p>\n\t\t<div class=\"click-to-tweet ctt-theme-basic-white\">\r\n\r\n\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?text=The%20Bible%20is%20at%20best%20ambiguous%20in%20its%20overall%20support%20for%20a%20social%20Trinity.&#038;url=https%3A%2F%2Fthomasjayoord.com%2Findex.php%2Fblog%2Farchives%2Fsocial-trinity-attractive\" class=\"tweet-link\">\r\n\t\t\t\tThe Bible is at best ambiguous in its overall support for a social Trinity.\t\t\t\t<span class=\"ctt-cta\">Click to Tweet<\/span>\r\n\t\t\t<\/a>\r\n\t\t\t\r\n\t\t<\/div>\r\n\t\t\n<p>Ward spends far more time dealing with the biblical texts pertaining to the Trinity than I do above. I&#8217;ve simply noted a few highlights.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>Modalism?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ward affirms a different concept of the Trinity. \u201cThe New Testament, taken as a whole,\u201d says Ward, \u201cspeaks of God as a dynamic, creative, and relational reality, a reality known in a basic threefold relation to a created world\u201d (72). This threefold relation does not come as three divine persons, however.<\/p>\n<p>This is not modalism, says Ward, if by modalism we mean that God appears as three but has no three-fold reality. Nor is it modalism that says God is revealed successively in three forms, first one aspect, then another, and finally a third.<\/p>\n<p>Ward believes God has a three-fold reality as creator, relater with creation, and transformer of creation. But these are not sequentially revealed. They are aspects of God&#8217;s relation to creatures. The words \u201cFather, Son, and Spirit\u201d are symbols of this inherent threefoldness.<\/p>\n<p>In sum, we don\u2019t need a social Trinity of three distinct persons to affirm this three-fold divine reality.<\/p>\n<p><strong><em>God as Essentially Relational Love<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Open and relational theologians are often attracted to the social Trinity, because this view emphasizes the essential relational love of God. To put it differently, many believe the social trinity affirms the relationality necessary for God\u2019s love.<\/p>\n<p>The Christian tradition\u2019s emphasis upon God as \u201cthree persons in one substance\u201d has the unfortunate effect of sounding like God is simultaneously three and yet static. Such substantive language is unhelpful. Open and relational theologians argue that God is not static.<\/p>\n<p>If love essentially requires giving and receiving between at least two, saying God is a social trinity of three persons with individual freedoms and intellects supports the view that \u201cGod is love.\u201d God can be thought to be everlastingly and necessarily loving, according to this view, because God is everlastingly and necessarily loving within the Trinity.\u00a0The Cappadocian fathers and, more recently, John Zizioulas argue for the cogency of three divine persons as necessary for a God who essentially loves.<\/p>\n\t\t<div class=\"click-to-tweet ctt-theme-basic-white\">\r\n\r\n\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?text=Many%20theologians%20find%20the%20social%20Trinity%20idea%20attractive,%20because%20it%20stresses%20the%20essential%20relational%20love%20of%20God.&#038;url=https%3A%2F%2Fthomasjayoord.com%2Findex.php%2Fblog%2Farchives%2Fsocial-trinity-attractive\" class=\"tweet-link\">\r\n\t\t\t\tMany theologians find the social Trinity idea attractive, because it stresses the essential relational love of God.\t\t\t\t<span class=\"ctt-cta\">Click to Tweet<\/span>\r\n\t\t\t<\/a>\r\n\t\t\t\r\n\t\t<\/div>\r\n\t\t\n<p>The problem with the social trinity consisting of three persons with distinct relations is that it smacks of tritheism. Three Gods could love each other eternally. But one God, without parts, has no internal divine relations. \u201cWe should not think of Father and Son apart from creation as exhibiting mutual, relational, self-giving love,\u201d says Ward (118).<\/p>\n<p>Zizioulas and the Cappadocian fathers rightly stress the \u201contological primacy of personhood over impersonal substance,\u201d says Ward. But the social Trinity they espouse results in tritheism (150).<\/p>\n<p><strong>Can God Be Essentially Loving Without Being a Social Trinity<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-3284 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/01\/Christ-and-the-Cosmos-by-theologian-Keith-Ward-196x300-196x300.jpg\" alt=\"Christ-and-the-Cosmos-by-theologian-Keith-Ward-196x300\" width=\"196\" height=\"300\" \/><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I want to affirm the desire that social Trinity theologians have for saying love is central to God. And I think it makes sense to say a God who is essentially love is also essentially relational. But I agree with Ward that most if not all versions of the social Trinity sound tritheistic.<\/p>\n<p>Is there a way to affirm God as essentially loving without adopting the social Trinity and its tritheistic implications? I believe there is.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ll address this in my next post in this ongoing conversation with Keith Ward&#8217;s book, <em>Christ and the Cosmos<\/em>.<\/p>\n\t\t<div class=\"click-to-tweet ctt-theme-basic-white\">\r\n\r\n\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/intent\/tweet?text=There%20is%20a%20way%20to%20affirm%20God%20as%20essentially%20loving%20without%20adopting%20the%20social%20Trinity.%20&#038;url=https%3A%2F%2Fthomasjayoord.com%2Findex.php%2Fblog%2Farchives%2Fsocial-trinity-attractive\" class=\"tweet-link\">\r\n\t\t\t\tThere is a way to affirm God as essentially loving without adopting the social Trinity. \t\t\t\t<span class=\"ctt-cta\">Click to Tweet<\/span>\r\n\t\t\t<\/a>\r\n\t\t\t\r\n\t\t<\/div>\r\n\t\t\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Many smart Christians affirm the idea of the social Trinity. 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