{"id":4175,"date":"2017-08-28T18:45:46","date_gmt":"2017-08-29T01:45:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/blog\/archives\/"},"modified":"2017-08-28T18:48:48","modified_gmt":"2017-08-29T01:48:48","slug":"god-relational-mean","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/blog\/archives\/god-relational-mean","title":{"rendered":"What Does &#8220;God is Relational&#8221; Mean?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>If you read many theology books, you\u2019ve likely come across many theologians who say God is relational. But it\u2019s not always clear what being \u201crelational\u201d means. I believe God is relational, and here&#8217;s what I mean&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>In the past, theologians used various words as or near synonyms with \u201crelational.\u201d The most common was \u201cpassible.\u201d And many ancient theologians rejected the idea that God is passible or relational.<\/p>\n<h3>Creatures Exert Influence on God<a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Relational-Theology-Brint-Montgomery\/dp\/1498266010\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-4126 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/413iETWU5CL._SX331_BO1204203200_-200x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/413iETWU5CL._SX331_BO1204203200_-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/07\/413iETWU5CL._SX331_BO1204203200_.jpg 333w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><\/a><\/h3>\n<p>The fundamental claim of God being relational is causal: creatures influence God. To put it another way, creation makes an impact upon God\u2019s experience. Consequently, a relational God is affected by what creatures do. That&#8217;s the basic idea of <a href=\"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/blog\/archives\/what-is-relational-theology\">relational theology<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>God sometimes feels emotions when influenced, at least according to some accounts. God feels compassion in response to suffering, for instance. God feels compassion, because creatures cause God to experience pity, sympathy, or empathy.<\/p>\n<p>Sometimes God is said to be pleased, which implies divine emotion. Believers sometimes even describe God as jealous. References to God\u2019s \u201cwrath\u201d are usually coupled with statements about divine anger, which is another of God\u2019s emotions. In sum, most references to divine emotions assume God engages in giving-and-receiving relationships with creation.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ll address in later blogs the obstacles to thinking God has emotions.\u00a0 At present, I want to stress that questions about God\u2019s relationality are <em>primarily <\/em>causal questions and secondarily about emotions. Relational theology says creation make an actual difference to God.<\/p>\n<h3>The Bible Supports a <a href=\"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/blog\/archives\/what-is-relational-theology\">Relational God<\/a><\/h3>\n<p>Why do so many Christians like me think its obvious creation influences God? I suspect most do because they believe the Bible tells them something true about who God is. In fact, like me, many have been reading and hearing the Bible since childhood. Scripture is a primary source of revelation, and biblical writers describe God as relational.<a href=\"#_ftn1\" name=\"_ftnref1\">[1]<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Listing every biblical passage depicting God as engaged in give-and-receive relations or expressing emotions would require a book \u2013 as big as a Bible! But let me offer a small sample of such verses:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>God \u201csees\u201d that the created world and in which creatures \u201cbring forth\u201d creatures is a \u201cgood\u201d world, even saying some are \u201cvery good\u201d (Gen. 1).<\/li>\n<li>God first considers the animals as possible companions for Adam but finds them unsuitable. So God decides to create another human (Gen. 2).<\/li>\n<li>The Lord \u201cregrets\u201d that he made humans, and \u201chis heart was deeply troubled\u201d (Gen. 6:6).<\/li>\n<li>God \u201chears\u201d the cries of Israel and is \u201cconcerned\u00a0about their suffering\u201d (Ex. 3:7).<\/li>\n<li>God \u201chears the groaning of the sons of Israel\u201d and remembers the covenant (Ex. 6:5).<\/li>\n<li>God self-identifies as a \u201cjealous God\u201d and \u201cunswervingly loyal\u201d (Ex. 20:5, 6).<\/li>\n<li>God encounters \u201ca stiff-necked\u00a0people,\u201d has anger that \u201cburns,\u201d but \u201crelents\u201d and does not bring disaster ( 32:9-14).<\/li>\n<li>Being \u201ca compassionate God,\u201d God will \u201cnot forget the covenant with your fathers\u201d (Dt. 4:31).<\/li>\n<li>The Lord foretells Hezekiah\u2019s imminent death; Hezekiah prays and asks for more time; the Lord responds by adding years to Hezekiah\u2019s life (2 Kings 20:1-7).<\/li>\n<li>God \u201cremembers his covenant\u201d and \u201crelents according to the greatness of his lovingkindness\u201d (Ps. 106:45).<\/li>\n<li>\u201cMy lovingkindness will not be removed from you, and my covenant of peace will not be shaken,&#8221; says the Lord of compassion (Is. 54:10).<\/li>\n<li>God feels sorrow about the disaster brought on Judah (Jer. 42:10).<\/li>\n<li>God is \u201cjealous\u201d and \u201ctakes pity\u201d on the people (Joel 2:18).<\/li>\n<li>God \u201chas compassion\u201d for Israel (Hosea 11:8-9).<\/li>\n<li>God takes \u201cgreat delight\u201d and \u201crejoices\u201d (Zeph. 3:17).<\/li>\n<li>God gets \u201cextremely angry\u201d when the nations make disasters worse (Zech. 1:15).<\/li>\n<li>Mary says God helps \u201cin remembrance of His mercy\u201d (Lk. 1:54).<\/li>\n<li>The apostle Paul warns his readers: \u201cDo not grieve the Holy Spirit of God\u201d (Eph. 4:30), which implies that creaturely action can sadden God.<\/li>\n<li>James says, \u201cThe Lord is full of compassion and is merciful\u201d (5:11).<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>I could list <em>many <\/em>biblical passages that point to a God whom creatures affect. Even most theologians who reject the idea that God is relational admit that biblical authors describe God as related to creation and expressing emotion.<\/p>\n<h3>Other Biblical Passages Describing a Relational God?<\/h3>\n<p>There\u2019s much more to say about God\u2019s relationality. But before going further, I\u2019d like to ask a favor. If there is a passage of scripture that especially speaks of God as relational, would you mention it in a response below. I realize that there are MANY in the Bible I haven\u2019t mentioned. So listing one or two especially good ones would suffice.<\/p>\n<div class='tm-tweet-clear'><\/div>\n<div class='tm-click-to-tweet'>\n<div class='tm-ctt-text'><a href='https:\/\/twitter.com\/share?text=The+fundamental+claim+of+God+being+relational+is+causal%3A+creatures+influence+God.&#038;url=https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/blog\/archives\/god-relational-mean' target='_blank'>The fundamental claim of God being relational is causal: creatures influence God.<\/a><\/div>\n<p><a href='https:\/\/twitter.com\/share?text=The+fundamental+claim+of+God+being+relational+is+causal%3A+creatures+influence+God.&#038;url=https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/blog\/archives\/god-relational-mean' target='_blank' class='tm-ctt-btn'>Click To Tweet<\/a><\/p>\n<div class='tm-ctt-tip'><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref1\" name=\"_ftn1\">[1]<\/a> A large number of Old Testament scholars argue in favor of divine relationality. For instance, see Walter Brueggemann, <em>Theology of the Old Testament: Testimony, Dispute, Advocacy <\/em>(Minneapolis: Fortress Press, 1997), Terence Fretheim, <em>God and the World in the Old Testament<\/em>;\u00a0 <em>The Suffering of God: An Old Testament Perspective<\/em> (Philadelphia: Fortress Press, 1984); <em>What Kind of God? Collected Essays of Terence E. Fretheim<\/em>, Michael J. Chan and Brent A Strawn, eds. (Winona Lake, Ind.: Eisenbrauns, 2015); John Goldingay, <em>Old Testament Theology<\/em>, vol. 1 (Downers Grove, Ill.: InterVarsity, 1993); Abraham Heschel, <em>The Prophets <\/em>(New York: Harper and Row, 1962). I\u2019m also grateful to John Daniel Holloway for his work on Jeremiah and passibility in his unpublished essay, \u201cThe Man Whom Suffering Made His Friend: Jeremiah and the Weeping God.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>If you read many theology books, you\u2019ve likely come across many theologians who say God is relational. 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