{"id":4679,"date":"2018-07-02T05:09:52","date_gmt":"2018-07-02T12:09:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/blog\/archives\/"},"modified":"2018-07-05T08:53:40","modified_gmt":"2018-07-05T15:53:40","slug":"the-relentless-love-view-of-the-afterlife","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/blog\/archives\/the-relentless-love-view-of-the-afterlife","title":{"rendered":"Relentless Love in the Afterlife"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In the book I&#8217;m currently writing, I address the question of heaven, hell, annihilation, and the afterlife. I take the logic of uncontrolling love to its eschatological end. And this process has led me to coin a label for my view, Relentless Love.<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-4680 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/32488050_10155256918226455_6772680538323943424_o-200x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/32488050_10155256918226455_6772680538323943424_o-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/32488050_10155256918226455_6772680538323943424_o-768x1153.jpg 768w, https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/32488050_10155256918226455_6772680538323943424_o-682x1024.jpg 682w, https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/32488050_10155256918226455_6772680538323943424_o.jpg 1364w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><\/p>\n<h3><strong>The Usual Afterlife Theories<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>The logic of uncontrolling love changes the way we think about the afterlife. If God&#8217;s self-giving, others-empowering love is necessarily uncontrolling and can&#8217;t control anyone or anything, what we do now and after we die makes an ultimate difference.<\/p>\n<p>The view of God most people seem to have &#8212; what I call &#8220;the conventional view&#8221; &#8212; not only assumes what we do <em>now<\/em> is unnecessary for God\u2019s purposes, it also assumes what we do after death is unnecessary. The typical scenarios say or imply God alone can decide our destiny.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Heaven and Hell<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>The most common afterlife scenario says God will decide some must go to heaven and others to hell. A person\u2019s sin may influence that decision. Whether a person \u201caccepted Jesus\u201d or was faithful in some religion may influence it. How a person treated the last and the least on earth may affect what God decides. But nothing we do is <em>essential<\/em>. It\u2019s up to God. The God with controlling power can do whatever he wants.<\/p>\n<p>The heaven or hell scenario assumes God alone predetermined the criteria used to decide our destinies. God set up the rules, decides whom to punish or reward, and assures judgment is executed. The One who set up the rules can change them at any time, because God is the sole lawmaker, judge, and implementer.<\/p>\n<p>This God answers to nothing and no one.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Universalism<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>The second scenario says God accepts everyone into heaven. Often called \u201cuniversalism,\u201d this view says a <em>truly<\/em> loving God wouldn\u2019t condemn anyone to eternal torment. The punishment of everlasting agony doesn\u2019t fit the crimes of 80 years (more or less) of earthly sin. Besides, a loving God forgives.<\/p>\n<p>This scenario assumes its God\u2019s prerogative to put everyone in heaven. And because God can control anyone at any time, heaven is ensured for all. But this also means that what we\u2019ve done \u2013 good or bad \u2013 doesn\u2019t ultimately matter. Our choices now don\u2019t matter then to the God who, by absolute fiat, will decide to place us in heaven.<\/p>\n<p>This God answers to nothing and no one.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Annihilation<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>The third afterlife scenario agrees that a loving God would not send anyone to eternal torment. But God destroys the unrepentant. God either annihilates them in a display of omnipotence or passively by not sustaining their existence. God causes or allows death God could singlehandedly prevent.<\/p>\n<p>Both active and passive destruction extinguish the unrepentant. They disappear. A controlling God retains ultimate say over whether anyone continues existing. If sinners wanted to repent, it\u2019s too late. God set up the rules and follows through with them.<\/p>\n<p>This God answers to nothing and no one.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>The Lawmaker, Judge, and Jury of One<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>In these afterlife scenarios, our actions don\u2019t <em>ultimately<\/em> matter. They may tilt God\u2019s decision one way or another, but they don\u2019t have to. The Judge with the ability to control can singlehandedly save us, condemn us, or annihilate us.<\/p>\n<p>All three scenarios assume God set up afterlife\u2019s judicial system. Whether judgment involves heaven and hell, heaven only, or annihilation, God predetermined the rules. A God who singlehandedly decides the rules retains the ability to change them. It\u2019s up to the Lawmaker, Judge, and Jury of One.<\/p>\n<p>The God who answers to nothing and no one can alone decide our fates.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Relentless Love<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>There\u2019s a better way to think about the afterlife. It builds upon the radical belief God <em>needs <\/em>our cooperation for love to flourish. It endorses our deep-seated intuition that our choices matter. And it says God\u2019s love for\u00a0<em>everyone<\/em>\u00a0continues beyond the grave.<\/p>\n<p>The better alternative agrees with other scenarios that our hope for true happiness now and later has God as its ultimate source. It disagrees, however, with scenarios that assume God alone can decide our fate. It says God<em> always <\/em>loves and seeks our love responses. When we and others cooperate, we enjoy well-being. When we do not, we suffer.<\/p>\n<p>Let\u2019s call this the \u201crelentless love\u201d view of the afterlife.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Rob Bell and Love Wins<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>The relentless love view follows the logic of uncontrolling love. To get at the details, let\u2019s compare it to Rob Bell\u2019s book, <em>Love Wins<\/em>. (<a href=\"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/blog\/archives\/reviewing_love_wins\">Click for a full review of Rob&#8217;s book.<\/a>)<a href=\"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/blog\/archives\/reviewing_love_wins\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-704 alignright\" src=\"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/lovewins-bell-199x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"199\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/lovewins-bell-199x300.jpg 199w, https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/04\/lovewins-bell.jpg 333w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 199px) 100vw, 199px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Much of <em>Love Wins <\/em>addresses hell. The book raises to awareness among the general public what biblical scholars have known for centuries: the Bible provides little to no support for the view that hell is a place of everlasting torment. The traditional idea of hell doesn\u2019t mesh well with Scripture.<\/p>\n<p>Rob believes in a type of hell, however. \u201cWe do ourselves great harm when we confuse the very essence of God, which is love, with the very real consequences of rejecting and resisting that love, which creates what we call hell,\u201d he says. To refuse God\u2019s love \u201cmoves us away from it\u2026 and that will, by very definition, be an increasingly unloving, hellish reality.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>I agree with Rob. What he calls \u201chell,\u201d I call the natural negative consequences of choosing not to cooperate with God\u2019s love.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Our Beliefs about God&#8217;s Love<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>The most important point in <em>Love Wins <\/em>is that our beliefs about God should shape our beliefs about what happens after death. We make the best sense of reality if we believe God\u2019s nature is love. A loving God would not send anyone to everlasting torment. God <em>always <\/em>loves <em>everyone <\/em>and <em>all <\/em>creation. Rob and I agree on that too.<\/p>\n<p>In my view, God doesn\u2019t send anyone to hell singlehandedly. God <em>can\u2019t. <\/em>The God whose nature is uncontrolling love also can\u2019t force anyone into heaven. Such force requires control, and God\u2019s love is uncontrolling. As far as I can tell, Rob doesn\u2019t make this claim.<\/p>\n<p><em>Love Wins <\/em>isn\u2019t clear about what it means to say, \u201clove wins.\u201d Does \u201cwinning\u201d mean God never stops loving? Or does it also mean God\u2019s love eventually persuades all to cooperate? And if God\u2019s love persuades all, is this a guarantee or hope?<\/p>\n<h3><strong>The Guarantees of Love<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>The relentless love view of the afterlife guarantees that love wins in several ways.<\/p>\n<p>First, the God whose nature is uncontrolling love will <em>never <\/em>stop loving us. Because love comes first, God <em>cannot <\/em>stop loving us. Conventional theologies say God may or may not love us now. They say God may or may not love us after we die. God could choose to torture or kill. It\u2019s hard to imagine any loving being sending others to hell or annihilating.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>1.<\/strong>\u00a0 It\u2019s guaranteed the God of relentless love works for our well-being in the afterlife. Love wins.<\/h3>\n<p>The second guarantee relentless love offers is that those in the afterlife who say \u201cYes\u201d to God\u2019s love experience heavenly bliss. They enjoy abundant life in either a different (spiritual) body or as a bodiless soul. (I address these two views in chapter four of the book.) Those who say \u201cYes!\u201d to God\u2019s love are guaranteed life eternal.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>2.<\/strong> It\u2019s guaranteed those who cooperate with God\u2019s relentless love enjoy eternal bliss. Love wins.<\/h3>\n<p>The third guarantee is that God <em>never <\/em>stops inviting, calling, and encouraging us to love in the afterlife. Although some may resist, God never throws in the towel. There are natural negative consequences that come from refusing love in this life and the next. But these consequences are self-imposed not divinely inflicted. God never gives up and never sends some to hell or annihilates.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>3.<\/strong> It\u2019s guaranteed God always offers eternal life and never annihilates or condemns to hell. Love wins.<\/h3>\n<p>As we consistently say \u201cYes\u201d to God, we develop loving characters. The habits of love shape us into loving people. While God\u2019s love always provides choices, those who develop loving characters through consistent positive responses grow less and less likely to choose unloving options. This may happen quickly or take more time. But when we taste and see that love is good, and as love builds our spiritual bodies, we\u2019re less likely to lust for junk food! Beyond the grave, this love diet rehabilitates. We\u2019re guaranteed to become new creations when we cooperate with love!<\/p>\n<h3><strong>4.<\/strong> It\u2019s guaranteed consistent cooperation with God\u2019s relentless love builds loving characters in us. Love wins.<\/h3>\n<p>The relentless love view cannot make one guarantee, however. It cannot guarantee that every creature and all creation cooperate with God\u2019s love, but love is like that. It does not force its own way (1 Cor. 13:5). Love cannot coerce. Love is always uncontrolling.<\/p>\n<p>Because God\u2019s love is relentless, however, we have good reason to <em>hope<\/em> all creatures eventually cooperate with God. It\u2019s reasonable to think the God who never gives up and whose love is universal will eventually convince all creatures and redeem all creation. After all, love always hopes and never gives up (1 Cor. 13:7)!<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Divine Love Sets the Rules<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>We earlier noted that conventional views assume God alone sets up the rules of final judgment. The conventional scenarios say God answers to nothing and no one. God freely sets up the rules, judges, and then implements the consequences. God alone decides all.<\/p>\n<p>Things are different for relentless love. God didn\u2019t singlehandedly set the rules of judgment long ago. In this view, God\u2019s loving ways are expressions of God\u2019s loving nature. The lawmaker, judge, and implementer of consequences is bound by the logic of divine love. Because God \u201ccannot deny himself\u201d (2 Tim. 2:13), God expresses uncontrolling love now and in the afterlife.<\/p>\n<p>God answers to God\u2019s own nature of love.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Conclusion<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>In sum, bliss beyond the grave rests primarily, but not exclusively, in the relentless love of God. God continues to give freedom and seek cooperation. The relentless love view provides various guarantees. And what we do in response to God\u2019s love matters now and in the afterlife.<\/p>\n<p>Love wins!<\/p>\n<span class='bctt-click-to-tweet'><span class='bctt-ctt-text'><a href='https:\/\/x.com\/intent\/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fthomasjayoord.com%2Findex.php%2Fblog%2Farchives%2Fthe-relentless-love-view-of-the-afterlife&#038;text=What%20we%20do%20in%20response%20to%20God%E2%80%99s%20love%20matters%20now%20and%20in%20the%20afterlife.&#038;via=ThomasJayOord&#038;related=ThomasJayOord' target='_blank'rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">What we do in response to God\u2019s love matters now and in the afterlife. <\/a><\/span><a href='https:\/\/x.com\/intent\/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fthomasjayoord.com%2Findex.php%2Fblog%2Farchives%2Fthe-relentless-love-view-of-the-afterlife&#038;text=What%20we%20do%20in%20response%20to%20God%E2%80%99s%20love%20matters%20now%20and%20in%20the%20afterlife.&#038;via=ThomasJayOord&#038;related=ThomasJayOord' target='_blank' class='bctt-ctt-btn'rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Share on X<\/a><\/span>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In the book I&#8217;m currently writing, I address the question of heaven, hell, annihilation, and the afterlife. 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