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<\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\nA\nTimeless God<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\nWhen I say some Christian theologies see God as \u2018essentially timeless,\u2019 I mean they do not think God experiences in relationship with others, moment by moment. Many assume God \u2018sees\u2019 history \u2013 beginning to end \u2013 from an eternal now. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Scholars offer various theories for how this timeless God allegedly acts. Many think God only acts once. But each theory shares the view God is fundamentally nontemporal. The timeless God is \u2018outside,\u2019 \u2018beyond,\u2019 or \u2018above\u2019 time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
A\nTimefull God<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\nOpen and relational theologies believe God experiences time similar to how we do: sequentially — moment by moment — in relation with others. God\u2019s experience is in process. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
God experienced the\nactual past, experiences in the present, and faces an open, yet-to-be-experienced\nfuture. God\u2019s experience is essentially timefull not timeless, pantemporal not\nnontemporal. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
In a recent chapter I wrote for a book, I explore many of the differences thinking God is timefull has for understanding providence. There are many Ways to Think about Divine Providence<\/a>. In this essay, I want to address one difference among the many.<\/p>\n\n\nGod\u2019s experience is essentially timefull not timeless, pantemporal not nontemporal. <\/a><\/span>Share on X<\/a><\/span>\n\n\nPlans but No Blueprint<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\nMany timeless theologies\nassume the God outside time predetermined creation\u2019s current events and future\noutcomes. Or they assume this timeless God foreknows \u2013 in some mysterious way \u2013\nprecisely how history plays out. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
Because God either foreordains or foreknows every occurrence, timeless God theologies typically think of providence like a detailed divine blueprint. This blueprint portrays all events in advance.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Theologies that believe God and creation are in process deny God foreordains or foreknows exhaustively. The future is open, they say, and the present becomes what a timefull God and <\/em>creation decide. There is not detailed divine blueprint.<\/p>\n\n\n\nThe\nFuture is Yet to be Decided<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\nA God of uncontrolling love cannot guarantee or foreknow all outcomes. Giving-and-receiving relationships of love make a real difference, because the future is yet to be decided. (See “What Does God’s Love Do?<\/a>“)<\/p>\n\n\n\nThe timefull God has general plans and desires, however. God is present to us and all creation, and God leads creation toward fulfilling those plans. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
A timefull God is not watching us from a distance. This is not an aloof and detached divine being. The God of open and relational theology makes plans for love to win and empowers creatures to cooperate. God works in each situation to call, persuade, or command creatures to choose well-being. <\/p>\n\n\nThe God of open and relational theology makes plans for love to win and empowers creatures to cooperate. <\/a><\/span>Share on X<\/a><\/span>\n\n\nImprov, Jazz, or Family<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\nInstead of a blueprint, God-in-process models might think of providence like an improvisational play. The play has a Director and general direction. But creaturely actors play essential roles in deciding how the plot unfolds. The play and its conclusion are neither predetermined nor preknown.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Timefull God models might also think of providence like a jazz session. Each musician contributes, and there\u2019s a general movement toward the possibility of beautiful art. But the artists determine together how the music develops. The musical piece is yet to be expressed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
These models might also think of providence like a family. A perfectly loving Parent nurtures and instructs children trying to direct the whole family toward well-being. But the family\u2019s health and vitality depend on the decisions of all members, not just the Parent. A healthy family does not emerge from a dictatorial parent!<\/p>\n\n\n\n
Conclusion<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\nI could list a dozen other positive differences timefull God views of providence have over timeless God views. And I do so in the essay I’ve just completed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n
What positive differences do you find attractive?<\/p>\n\n\n A healthy family does not emerge from a dictatorial parent, divine or otherwise! <\/a><\/span>Share on X<\/a><\/span>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"Most Christian theologies assume God is essentially timeless. This timeless God foreordains or foreknows all that will ever occur. For these theologies, \u201cdivine providence\u201d means God acting with the end already settled. Open and relational theology thinks God is timefull, not timeless. How we think about God’s relation to time makes a big difference in […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[9],"tags":[28,40,356,6577,6579,6580,6586],"yst_prominent_words":[6558,6576,6574,6569,6567,6563,6562,6561,6560,6559,1224,6557,6555,6554,6120,4510,3922,1412,1232,1226],"class_list":["post-5103","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-open_and_relational_theology","tag-open-theology","tag-open-and-relational","tag-predestination","tag-timefull","tag-blueprint","tag-uncontrolling-providence","tag-improvization"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5103","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5103"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5103\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5103"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5103"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5103"},{"taxonomy":"yst_prominent_words","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/yst_prominent_words?post=5103"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}
Open and relational theologies believe God experiences time similar to how we do: sequentially — moment by moment — in relation with others. God\u2019s experience is in process. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
God experienced the\nactual past, experiences in the present, and faces an open, yet-to-be-experienced\nfuture. God\u2019s experience is essentially timefull not timeless, pantemporal not\nnontemporal. <\/p>\n\n\n\n
In a recent chapter I wrote for a book, I explore many of the differences thinking God is timefull has for understanding providence. There are many Ways to Think about Divine Providence<\/a>. In this essay, I want to address one difference among the many.<\/p>\n\n\nGod\u2019s experience is essentially timefull not timeless, pantemporal not nontemporal. <\/a><\/span>Share on X<\/a><\/span>\n\n\n Many timeless theologies\nassume the God outside time predetermined creation\u2019s current events and future\noutcomes. Or they assume this timeless God foreknows \u2013 in some mysterious way \u2013\nprecisely how history plays out. <\/p>\n\n\n\n Because God either foreordains or foreknows every occurrence, timeless God theologies typically think of providence like a detailed divine blueprint. This blueprint portrays all events in advance.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Theologies that believe God and creation are in process deny God foreordains or foreknows exhaustively. The future is open, they say, and the present becomes what a timefull God and <\/em>creation decide. There is not detailed divine blueprint.<\/p>\n\n\n\n A God of uncontrolling love cannot guarantee or foreknow all outcomes. Giving-and-receiving relationships of love make a real difference, because the future is yet to be decided. (See “What Does God’s Love Do?<\/a>“)<\/p>\n\n\n\n The timefull God has general plans and desires, however. God is present to us and all creation, and God leads creation toward fulfilling those plans. <\/p>\n\n\n\n A timefull God is not watching us from a distance. This is not an aloof and detached divine being. The God of open and relational theology makes plans for love to win and empowers creatures to cooperate. God works in each situation to call, persuade, or command creatures to choose well-being. <\/p>\n\n\nThe God of open and relational theology makes plans for love to win and empowers creatures to cooperate. <\/a><\/span>Share on X<\/a><\/span>\n\n\n Instead of a blueprint, God-in-process models might think of providence like an improvisational play. The play has a Director and general direction. But creaturely actors play essential roles in deciding how the plot unfolds. The play and its conclusion are neither predetermined nor preknown.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Timefull God models might also think of providence like a jazz session. Each musician contributes, and there\u2019s a general movement toward the possibility of beautiful art. But the artists determine together how the music develops. The musical piece is yet to be expressed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n These models might also think of providence like a family. A perfectly loving Parent nurtures and instructs children trying to direct the whole family toward well-being. But the family\u2019s health and vitality depend on the decisions of all members, not just the Parent. A healthy family does not emerge from a dictatorial parent!<\/p>\n\n\n\n I could list a dozen other positive differences timefull God views of providence have over timeless God views. And I do so in the essay I’ve just completed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n What positive differences do you find attractive?<\/p>\n\n\n A healthy family does not emerge from a dictatorial parent, divine or otherwise! <\/a><\/span>Share on X<\/a><\/span>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" Most Christian theologies assume God is essentially timeless. This timeless God foreordains or foreknows all that will ever occur. For these theologies, \u201cdivine providence\u201d means God acting with the end already settled. Open and relational theology thinks God is timefull, not timeless. How we think about God’s relation to time makes a big difference in […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[9],"tags":[28,40,356,6577,6579,6580,6586],"yst_prominent_words":[6558,6576,6574,6569,6567,6563,6562,6561,6560,6559,1224,6557,6555,6554,6120,4510,3922,1412,1232,1226],"class_list":["post-5103","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-open_and_relational_theology","tag-open-theology","tag-open-and-relational","tag-predestination","tag-timefull","tag-blueprint","tag-uncontrolling-providence","tag-improvization"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5103","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5103"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5103\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5103"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5103"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5103"},{"taxonomy":"yst_prominent_words","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/yst_prominent_words?post=5103"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}Plans but No Blueprint<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n
The\nFuture is Yet to be Decided<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n
Improv, Jazz, or Family<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n
Conclusion<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n