{"id":5907,"date":"2020-11-30T08:42:57","date_gmt":"2020-11-30T15:42:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/blog\/archives\/"},"modified":"2021-01-26T14:00:52","modified_gmt":"2021-01-26T21:00:52","slug":"my-hope-that-all-eventually-cooperate-with-god","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/blog\/archives\/my-hope-that-all-eventually-cooperate-with-god","title":{"rendered":"All Will Eventually Cooperate with God"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>In a series of <a href=\"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/tag\/relentless-love\">essays on this website<\/a> and in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Questions-Answers-Cant-Thomas-Oord\/dp\/1948609312\/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=\">books,<\/a> I&#8217;ve argued that God requires creaturely cooperation for love finally to win. To put it another way, the ultimate victory of good over evil requires creatures to cooperate with God. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;m <em>not <\/em>saying God alone will right all wrongs and bring about universal salvation. It&#8217;s not <em>all <\/em>up to God. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But I&#8217;m also <em>not <\/em>saying it entirely up to creation. I think God acts to empower and inspire creatures. But love wins when creatures cooperate with God.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">How Hopeful is This View?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>At times, creation&#8217;s complete cooperation with God seems inevitable. I see good winning, and I\u2019m optimistic about the future. God&#8217;s reign of love is being established!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignright size-medium\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Questions-Answers-Cant-Thomas-Oord\/dp\/1948609312\/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/6-300x300.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-5909\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/6-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/6-1024x1024.png 1024w, https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/6-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/6-768x768.png 768w, https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/6-600x600.png 600w, https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/6-100x100.png 100w, https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/11\/6.png 1080w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>At other times, complete cooperation seems impossible. The world has so many problems, and some people rarely cooperate with God. Sometimes people and systems seem hopelessly evil!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>My hopefulness waxes and wanes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>My trust in God does not vary. I trust God will act for good today and tomorrow. I believe it\u2019s God\u2019s nature to love all creation, so God never gives up. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But creatures don&#8217;t have a steadfast nature of love for others. They are not perfectly good. And for all to be set right, my relentless love view of the afterlife requires creatures to cooperate with God. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Is my hope for comprehensive creaturely redemption realistic? Is the idea all creation will be redeemed through cooperation with God a pipe dream, fantasy, or hopelessly na\u00efve wish?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>How hopeful is this view?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">John Wesley Helps Me<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Theologian John Wesley wrestled with these questions. In his essay, <em>The General Spread of the Gospel<\/em>, Wesley does a thought experiment about God and creation\u2019s destiny.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>\u201cSuppose the Almighty to act <em>irresistibly<\/em>,\u201d says Wesley. If God did, \u201call difficulty that the world would be saved vanishes away.\u201d To put it in my language, a controlling God could guarantee universal salvation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignright size-medium\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"213\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/08\/john-wesley-12-213x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2383\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/08\/john-wesley-12-213x300.jpg 213w, https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/08\/john-wesley-12.jpg 228w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 213px) 100vw, 213px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>But this view of God&#8217;s power leads to insurmountable problems. If God were to control us, says Wesley, \u201cman would be man no longer; his inmost nature would be changed. He would no longer be a moral agent, any more than the sun or the wind, as he would no longer be endued with liberty, a power of choosing or self-determination. Consequently, he would no longer be capable of virtue or vice, of reward or punishment.\u201d<a href=\"#sdendnote1sym\"><sup>i<\/sup><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Wesley rejects the idea God controls when saving. Such control would destroy God&#8217;s creation. Consequently, our hope for the ultimate victory of good is not in controlling sovereignty. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Wesley&#8217;s view of salvation is, as he put it, that \u201cGod will not save us without ourselves.\u201d This means we play an essential role in our redemption and the redemption of all creation.<a href=\"#sdendnote2sym\"><sup>ii<\/sup><\/a> What we do counts!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Although Wesley does not use my language of &#8220;relentless love&#8221; or &#8220;uncontrolling love,&#8221; his logic seems the same as mine. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Will <em>All <\/em>Creation Eventually Cooperate with God?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Our original question remains unanswered. Will all creation eventually cooperate with God\u2019s work of love? And could John Wesley genuinely hope for the reconciliation of everyone and everything&#8230; despite his believing God would not save irresistibly?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Wesley was hopeful, and I find his logic helpful. \u201cIn the same manner as God\u00a0<em>has\u00a0<\/em>converted so many to himself without destroying their liberty,\u201d he says, \u201cGod\u00a0<em>can\u00a0<\/em>undoubtedly convert whole nations or the whole world. It is as easy for him to convert a world as one individual soul.\u201d<a href=\"#sdendnote3sym\"><sup>iii<\/sup><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>It as easy for God to convert a world as one individual soul.<\/em> &#8211; John Wesley<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>When I\u2019m pessimistic all creatures will cooperate, I ponder Wesley\u2019s words. His optimism that all creation will be redeemed stems from God\u2019s relentless love. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>God&#8217;s love gives me hope.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Am I Better than Others?<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>When I think about God&#8217;s work to save all creation, I sometimes ask myself a series of questions:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>1. \u201cHas God persuaded <em>me<\/em> to cooperate with love?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I answer, \u201cYes! I&#8217;m not always consistent, but I enjoy the salvation that comes when cooperating with God&#8217;s love.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>2. \u201cIf God can persuade me, can God persuade others? Or am I somehow better than other people?\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I quickly answer my question: \u201cNo! I\u2019m no better than others. God works to save everyone.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"alignright size-medium\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Questions-Answers-Cant-Thomas-Oord\/dp\/1948609312\/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&amp;qid=&amp;sr=\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"200\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/kindle-cover-200x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-5559\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/kindle-cover-200x300.jpg 200w, https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/kindle-cover-683x1024.jpg 683w, https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/kindle-cover-768x1152.jpg 768w, https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/kindle-cover-1024x1536.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/kindle-cover-1365x2048.jpg 1365w, https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2020\/06\/kindle-cover-scaled.jpg 1707w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><\/a><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>If God can persuade me, I have hope based on the evidence of my life (and the lives of others) God will eventually persuade all creation. It&#8217;s not a guarantee. But if God&#8217;s love persuades me, why can&#8217;t it persuade everyone?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">In Sum&#8230;<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>My hope is based primarily on God\u2019s relentless love. I beleive God&#8217;s love is uncontrolling, so God cannot guarantee that all will cooperate. But I&#8217;ve seen how God&#8217;s love is transforming me. That makes me optimistic it will eventually woo everyone and everything to ultimate salvation!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I explore these ideas in greater detail in a chapter of my book, <em>Questions and Answers for God Can&#8217;t<\/em>. To explore those details and dozens of other key questions, get a copy of the book.<\/p>\n\n\n<span class='bctt-click-to-tweet'><span class='bctt-ctt-text'><a href='https:\/\/x.com\/intent\/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fthomasjayoord.com%2Findex.php%2Fblog%2Farchives%2Fmy-hope-that-all-eventually-cooperate-with-god&#038;text=My%20ultimate%20hope%20is%20based%20primarily%20on%20God%E2%80%99s%20relentless%20love.%20God%27s%20love%20is%20uncontrolling%20and%20cannot%20guarantee%20that%20all%20creatures%20will%20cooperate.%20But%20God%27s%20love%20is%20transforming%20me.%20That%20makes%20me%20optimistic%20it%20will%20eventually%20woo%20everyone%20and%E2%80%A6&#038;related' target='_blank'rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">My ultimate hope is based primarily on God\u2019s relentless love. God&#039;s love is uncontrolling and cannot guarantee that all creatures will cooperate. But God&#039;s love is transforming me. That makes me optimistic it will eventually woo everyone and\u2026 <\/a><\/span><a href='https:\/\/x.com\/intent\/tweet?url=https%3A%2F%2Fthomasjayoord.com%2Findex.php%2Fblog%2Farchives%2Fmy-hope-that-all-eventually-cooperate-with-god&#038;text=My%20ultimate%20hope%20is%20based%20primarily%20on%20God%E2%80%99s%20relentless%20love.%20God%27s%20love%20is%20uncontrolling%20and%20cannot%20guarantee%20that%20all%20creatures%20will%20cooperate.%20But%20God%27s%20love%20is%20transforming%20me.%20That%20makes%20me%20optimistic%20it%20will%20eventually%20woo%20everyone%20and%E2%80%A6&#038;related' target='_blank' class='bctt-ctt-btn'rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Share on X<\/a><\/span>\n\n\n<p>NOTES<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#sdendnote1anc\">i<\/a> John Wesley, \u2018The General Spread of the Gospel\u2019, <em>The Works of John Wesley <\/em>(Kansas City: Nazarene Publishing House, 1872 authorized editor of the Wesleyan Conference Office),6:280.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#sdendnote2anc\">ii<\/a> Ibid., 6:281.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"#sdendnote3anc\">iii<\/a> Ibid.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In a series of essays on this website and in books, I&#8217;ve argued that God requires creaturely cooperation for love finally to win. 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