{"id":6743,"date":"2024-08-11T12:34:08","date_gmt":"2024-08-11T19:34:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/blog\/archives\/"},"modified":"2024-08-12T04:11:46","modified_gmt":"2024-08-12T11:11:46","slug":"answering-questions-after-the-trial","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/blog\/archives\/answering-questions-after-the-trial","title":{"rendered":"Answering Questions After the Trial"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>The last few weeks have been a whirlwind. After being found guilty at my queer church trial, I have been talking with news sources, radio (BBC), podcasts, and more. And there are more developments in the works.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;m writing this while in Britain. I&#8217;m living out of a backpack for a month as I travel to various cities to speak, including speaking at Greenbelt, a progressive Christian festival outside London. My last stop is Split, Croatia.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I&#8217;ve been asked many questions since the trial. So I thought I&#8217;d answer seven here&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em><strong>Were you surprised by the verdict?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I was not surprised to lose my credentials. I <em>was<\/em> surprised to be excommunicated by having my membership removed. I was also surprised at how poorly the verdict was written and how bad the theology was as articulated by the writers. I brought leading theologians as my witnesses, but the discipline board, whose members have a small iota of theological training by comparison, thought they knew better! (To read the verdict, <a href=\"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/index.php\/blog\/archives\/my-church-queer-trial-verdict\">see this link<\/a>.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em><strong>Would you change anything you did leading up to the trial or during it?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>My strategy for this trial was not to be found innocent. I assumed I&#8217;d be declared guilty. That assumption freed me to be bolder than I might have otherwise been. I wanted to make the case for full queer inclusion, and my primary audience was the wider denomination and public. That&#8217;s why I hired media consultants, hired a videographer, talked to news outlets, published my defense before the trial, etc. I&#8217;m happy about that strategy. I&#8217;m also pleased with how I acted during the trial itself. (I&#8217;m grateful to my wife for her counsel and encouragement during it). Of course, I wish the discipline board had taken my expert witnesses more seriously.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em><strong>How has this affected you personally?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Although I assumed this journey would be difficult emotionally, it was far more difficult than I expected. I dealt with anxiety, shortness of breath, weight gain, and more. I&#8217;m grateful for a supportive wife and family, and many friends reached out with encouragement. My pain, however, pales in comparison to what so many queer people endure at the hands of the church.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-medium\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/My-Defense-Responding-Charges-Affirm-ebook\/dp\/B0D326VLYL\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"194\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/oord-my-defense-fc-194x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6732\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/oord-my-defense-fc-194x300.jpg 194w, https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/oord-my-defense-fc-663x1024.jpg 663w, https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/oord-my-defense-fc-768x1185.jpg 768w, https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/oord-my-defense-fc-995x1536.jpg 995w, https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/oord-my-defense-fc-1327x2048.jpg 1327w, https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/oord-my-defense-fc.jpg 1518w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 194px) 100vw, 194px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p><strong><em>Can I read your defense?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The transcripts from the trial are not available yet. But my defense is available as a short book. The e-version is only 99 cents, and the print is $4.99.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><em>Will you appeal the decision?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Earlier this year, my friend Dee Kelley went through a similar trial. He had written an essay for <em>Why the Church of the Nazarene Should be Fully LGBTQ+ Affirming<\/em>, the book my daughter and I co-edited. Dee lost his case and pursued several appeals. Not only were his queer inclusion &#8220;crimes&#8221; fewer than mine, I saw how unjustly he was treated by denominational leaders. When I don&#8217;t expect justice, I don&#8217;t see the point in appealing. But I&#8217;m happy Dee did.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><em>Will you join another denomination?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Not anytime soon. While I&#8217;m grateful to the people who invited me to join their group, I plan to wait a long time before deciding <em>if <\/em>or <em>which <\/em>group to join. I went to trial 1) to encourage queer people, 2) to encourage allies, and 3) to move the Church of the Nazarene toward full queer inclusion. I wasn&#8217;t &#8220;burning bridges&#8221; on the way elsewhere. I plan to continue attending Real Life Church of the Nazarene in Nampa, Idaho, where I&#8217;ve been for several years. But I can&#8217;t be a member.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-medium\"><a href=\"https:\/\/fundrazr.com\/42Ops0?ref=ab_7k7CnPeFrGg7k7CnPeFrGg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" src=\"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/queer-300x300.png\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6744\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/queer-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/queer-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/thomasjayoord.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/08\/queer.png 710w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p><em><strong>Can I help with your trial expenses?<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yes! While I did not hire a lawyer, I invested a lot of money in media consultants, videographers, book production, and social media help. You can contribute to a fund raiser to cover those costs. Click here: <a href=\"https:\/\/fundrazr.com\/42Ops0?ref=ab_7k7CnPeFrGg7k7CnPeFrGg\">Spreading the News of Queer Affirmation.<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The last few weeks have been a whirlwind. After being found guilty at my queer church trial, I have been talking with news sources, radio (BBC), podcasts, and more. And there are more developments in the works. I&#8217;m writing this while in Britain. 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